It's been two days and I'm still ticked off about this so please allow me to vent.
I posted the other day about taking the day off and playing some $10/$25 Pot Limit Omaha and making a pretty good score. I'm not ticked off about that. But it seems that a couple of the dealers began complaining about the quantity of my tokes. Apparently I didn't toke them enough to suit them. How do I know this? Eventually, I was spoken to about it by management. How much did I toke? Well I'll get to that in a moment but in my opinion, it doesn't matter. I never worried about tips as a dealer - all I did was worrying about perfecting my dealing and miraculously, the tips seemed to take care of themselves and by the end of the day it seemed that I was going home with more than anyone else.
Anyway, I did say that I would tell you how much I toked so... normally I toke a dollar a pot regardless of the size of the pot - but since I am dealing this tournament and these were co-workers I upped it to a minimum of $2 even if all I did was steal the blinds and any pot of any quality was $5. When I left the game, I tossed the remainder of my $1 chips to the dealer.
Regardless, the fact that the dealers complained is horrible in my opinion, and the fact that they are your coworkers is even worse. If they have a serious problem with how you toke, they should talk to you, not to management.
Is it a rule that you have to tip a certain amount? If the dealers ever complained to management about how much i tip i would just stop tipping them alltogether, its suposed to be something i do out of generosity and if they don't appreciate it then im gonna stop alltogether. I have never played in a card room/casino so maybe my view of dealer tipping is off but what happend to you seems pretty absurd
I waited tables for years to support my family and put myself through school so I know a thing or two about living off of tips. Complaining about what you make, if it was a crappy night, is something you do to your co-workers, not to management. Also, if we had a co-worker come in to eat we'd love it if they were extra generous, but if they just tipped a normal amount, and it sounds like you tipped more than that, we wouldn't have found that odd or insulting. It sounds to me like they saw you winning and greed made them expect you to tip lavishly since they were working with you, albiet temporarily. I wouldn't let it bother you, especially since you don't have to work with them for long. Also, do you think there was any jealousy involved as many of them probably would love to go pro but aren't there yet?
To the dealers who are bitching about your generosity, tell them about the $4000-$8000 game going on. When the dealer sits down, he gets ONE $25 chip. And not a single chip more for his entire down. Let them go deal that game, and then let them complain.
By the way, since I started making my only income from poker, I have become a VERY stringent tipper. And if I tip more than $1, even when playing $40-$80 or higher, then the pot had to be HUGE... but when a dealer comes in who has gone the extra mile in either customer service, or is absolutely flawless with the cards, then it is duly noted, and my generosity will show that i noticed. So if they complain, its much more likely that the problem is on their side.
Sounds to me like your co-workers are just jealous. They probably don't have the skills to play the same games you do and are POed about it. I think your tips were more than enough based on what you posted.
>> If the dealers ever complained to management about how much i tip i would just stop tipping them alltogether, its suposed to be something i do out of generosity and if they don't appreciate it then im gonna stop alltogether
Were you playing with a bunch of millionaires that were tipping $5 and $10 per pot? Can you remember what others were tipping?
$2 per pot is plenty! They were either getting tipped big by the millionaires who were losing to you, or they were jealous. It is as simple as that. For them to bitch about it is unbelievable, but to go to management, that is plain rediculous.
I bet your glad you only have about 3 more weeks with these idiots!
Sorry to hear about this, but I wouldn't let it bother you too much, and I definately wouldnt tip more because of it. Go down to the Bellagio or Mirage, and play there if they dont like it. Then you can go back to tipping $1 per pot and your score will be over $5000.
There's one other point I had thought to mention on the subject which I forgot but some of your comments reminded me ...
Back when I used to deal regularly there were some dealers whom I would tip much more than others - and it wasn't just because they were good - dealers who also played would get greater tips - cause they would put their tips in action and we would take care of each other. Dealers who just came in and took from the poker community and didn't give anything back got a more conservative tip.
BiNgOsHaDo: Funny story about that $4000/$8000 game... It's true that you get one $25 chip when you sat down but they had a deal worked out with three of us who used to deal it regularly - if, when we got up at the end of our down, they forgot to give us that $25 we were supposed to remind them. If we had to remind us, then we got $50. If they forgot and we reminded them by singing this stupid little song then they gave us $100 which I found to be a pretty humiliating little game. You know, let's watch the dealer make a fool out of himself and we'll give him $50 that's meaningless to us and we'll all have a good laugh at him. They forgot me once and I reminded them as I was leaving the table. One of them suggested I start singing to get the extra $50. I told him, "Ya know, I'm a working man today - I won't always have to work - but I'll always be a man so I'm just gonna pass on the song." Bobby Baldwin was getting a massage at the time and hadn't looked up for 1/2 an hour but he looked up at me then, grinned and tossed me $100.
If someone doesnt like your tipping you should tell them to watch the first 10mins of Reservoir Dogs. I can't stand people who just tip cause they feel its must. Its not like the dealers gonna stop calling the game right, or dealing the cards to you if you don't tip. I think last time I played live I tipped once or twice in a 2 hour game. I came away up bucks up in a 2/4 game, and I would bet I saw other guys draging small pots tipping 2$ just about everytime, people just throwing away money.
